Why are you here?

topic posted Fri, December 31, 2004 - 12:34 PM by  joe @#$%ing ...
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For reasons not worth going into here, I bear a fairly strong (ok, sometimes rabid) anti-Christian sentiment. As a result I turn to other myths and stories to guide my narrative.
Athena and Odysseus, with their emphasis on craft (in both senses) and cleverness and wisdom, represent the ideals I aspire to. Years as a messenger make me claim the patronage of Hermes as well.

Of course like any good “pagan” I take gods where ever and find them and use them for whatever I can. The ones that I find the most use for:

The Owl Maiden and The Mouse Rider (One Tooth) and the Grey Pilgrim (One Eye).

The Giant Killer, The Crafty One (The Bad Sailor), The Betrayer of Balder (Father of the Wolf and the Snake).

The Dead King and His Queen, The Mother and Her Daughter.

Unfortunately I am fundamentally a scientist, and don’t really “believe” in anything (Ask me if I believe in evolution and I have pretty much the same reaction as Francesca does when you bring up Atlantis). This, however, doesn’t prevent me from spilling wine in their names occasionally.


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joe @#$%ing judd
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    Re: Why are you here?

    Mon, January 3, 2005 - 5:23 PM
    Unlike you I have no problems with Christianity though most christians hack me off.I love the greek mythos but I have a stronger belief in the Norse.Spilling a little wine to cover your bases is rather scientific you cant prove they dont exist so better safe then sorry.
    • Re: gods

      Sun, February 27, 2005 - 8:55 PM
      Just for the record.
      My list includes:
      Five Greeks
      One Hindu
      Two Norse
      And two from anywhere, although, truth be told, I was thinking of the Egyptians.
      • Re: gods

        Sun, March 20, 2005 - 10:16 AM
        My Pantheon includes mostly Greek and Egyptian. Comes from studying Hermetic magic.
  • Re: Why are you here?

    Sat, January 15, 2005 - 3:40 PM
    Unlike Hated Joe, I am a Christian, but I read too much Latin and Greek in high school to take the Bible literally.

    I'm here because the opening battle scene of Gladiator infuriates me. For actors' safety, I will forgive stirrups. I cannot and *will* not forgive the longbows.
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      Re: Why are you here?

      Wed, July 13, 2005 - 6:08 PM
      It's not any crazier than an Emperor fighting a gladiator in the Coliseum

      Or Achilles not having his boyfriend P.

      Or Greeks and Romans speaking like Englishmen

      Or Arthur turning into a Roman commando

      Gotta love Hollywood.
  • Re: Why are you here?

    Sun, January 16, 2005 - 10:49 PM
    I can't help but feel that I am stumbling in the shadows of Joe's poignance in trying to answer this question, so I will merely be direct:

    I am here seeking truth, wisdom, beauty, adventure...

    I find these elements in Homer.

    I find them in Athena.

    I find them in Odysseus.

    I find them in Mariah, and I find them in Joe.

    I couldn't give two shits about the Christians, or anyone else who believes what they're told.

    There you have it.

    • Re: Why are you here?

      Tue, July 12, 2005 - 3:12 PM
      I just read this, six months after you posted it. You silver-tongued charmer you. I am going to give you a big ol' kiss when I see you in October, oin a sisterly sort of way . . .
      • Re: Why are you here?

        Tue, July 12, 2005 - 7:16 PM
        Sisterly, huh? I've got two sisters, and I've got to tell you: we don't have to go to any real trouble to avoid kissing each other (yech!)

        We'll have to discuss this...

        P.S. - Glad you liked it (Joe sets the writing barre pretty fuckin' high...)
        • Re: Why are you here?

          Mon, August 15, 2005 - 9:23 AM
          Alright you two. . .

          as to fighting emperors

          According to Gibbon, the emperor Commodus spent the early years of his reign "in a seraglio of three hundred beautiful women and as many boys, of every rank and of every province." Later, adding bloodshed to his round of pleasures, he launched a career in murder, beginning with the dispatch of the usual senators, ministers and family members and continuing with the slaughter of beasts. Styling himself the Roman Hercules, he went as a performer into the amphitheater, where he cut down before the public a number of ostriches, a panther, a hundred lions, an elephant, a rhinoceros and a giraffe. He then entered the lists as a gladiator. Commodus fought 735 times and paid himself such a high fee for each appearance that a new tax had to be levied. No harm came to him in the arena, if only because he furnished his opponents with weapons of lead; so it was left to Marcia, his favorite concubine, to rid Rome of Commodus. One night, aided by a chamberlain and the Praetorian prefect, she admitted a professional wrestler to his bedchamber to strangle him as he lay in a drunken stupor.

          I like the weapons of lead part, really shows the integrity of Commodus character.
  • Re: Why are you here?

    Thu, November 2, 2006 - 2:46 AM
    One afternoon while napping on the couch, I dreamt that I awoke from my nap and Atropos was hovering over me. She was a sweet looking blonde girl wearing huge sunglasses that were much too big for her face, but I somehow knew it was her. There were all kinds of other things in the dream, Cenobites and such nasties, which was very strange because I thought I was awake. I have a lot of dreams like this. My life is informed by the Hero Journey... my earliest memory is of reading the myth of Persephone, and I have rabidly read and re-read hero myths all my life. I share a vehemently anti-Xtian sentiment with many others here, and this seems like a wonderful place to be. I also write a lot of music centered around these concepts. So, the question remains... WHERE'S MY DAMN PHALLUS!?

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